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but it needs a discovery mechanism how do you find the latest, greatest ipfs objects?

two ways IPNS, which is like ssbc feeds (replication works different), you can publish an IPFS hash to you ipns address (just a pub key).

Also they have been working on generic sub/pub but its super DOSable at this point

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It would be nice to have a few more pubs that didn't run on port 8008. Cornell's firewall seems to be blocking 8008. The only pub i can connect to is @pub.hacky.af currently

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side note: infura's largest user is metamask. @kumavis is working on lessening the load by have metamask load etheruem's state from IPFS

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ps, the thing that I want, what I really really want is to be able to take the system and replay the messages through it. I want to be able to have tests, and replay those tests with different concurrent orderings, or say, record the events coming in from the outside, and rerun the system against it.

@Dominic do you have an logs or test i can try out?

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@null_radix can you tell us more about how your thing is organized.

The basic idea is that there are VMs (containers) that have access to channels. Channels allow sending messages to other VM's. You can write to a channel (refered to by it's port) and read the next avaible message. You can also send Ports (which is referance the channel) in messages. A recieving VM can then use that port to write and read from the channel.

Currently all state is store on IPFS. But since it just uses ipfs dag api which consists of only 3 methods it should be easy to use other backends.

ps, the thing that I want, what I really really want is to be able to take the system and replay the messages through it. I want to be able to have tests, and replay those tests with different concurrent orderings, or say, record the events coming in from the outside, and rerun the system against it.

I was designing for blockchain usages so messages ording is deterministic (Messages are ordered by time they where sent) with in a continuous computing region (i.e. if you have a channel that is connected to a VM that actully exists remotely messages could have different ording. The ordering of these message should be recoded in a "block", but this is not implemeneted yet).

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how does it work?

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some sort of actor model messaging between modules?

yep! yep! so im working on this which an "hypervisor" or micro-kernel that provides only simple messaging passing between containers. Containers can be seen as actors. And process one message at a time. Here is an example. Now I don't have the wasm container up yet, but will push soon.

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another level of integration would be to relay transactions from the cryptocurrency network into ssb. with bitcoin, i am not sure of a good way to do this. a feed could publish a message "please publish transactions sent to bitcoin address X", but i don't see much incentive for peers to heed these.

maybe another possible way it to represent ethereum address as feeds inside scuttlebutt. Also Contract's can have 'events' which are recorded in the block, the events could be used to by contract's to reply to feed's on scuttlebutt.

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Sick of Myself

Algorithmic identity is a means of control and consolation

To an algorithmic system, you might be 45 percent likely to be a woman and 45 percent likely to be a man at the same time. Every social category can be infinitely subdivided in practice, with each combination of probabilities constituting a pseudo gender of its own. “Because Google’s gender is Google’s, not mine, I am unable to offer a critique of that gender, nor can I practice what we might refer to as a first-order gendered politics that queries what Google’s gender means, how it distributes resources, and how it comes to define our algorithmic identities,”


it seem as though the systems reject essentialist definitions of identity categories, allowing for fluid identities produced on a contingent, situation-to-situation basis. But the fluidity within the categories is less important than the fact that systems may be trained to associate certain data with specific, socially loaded categories, reinforcing their perceived significance for social participation


From the start, we are not self-inventing. We are born into a social context that forms the framework and the limitations of our self-knowledge. Knowing ourselves means understanding this immutable context that we didn’t choose. Algorithmic systems model that context, concretizing the ways in which identity supersedes individual bodies and emerges between people and groups, within institutions and technological affordances.


We can learn the secret of ourselves, as long as we consent to be controlled.

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