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I've always struggled to read only one book at a time. Right now it's Socialism ...Seriously by Danny Katch and Control Your Anxiety by Albert Ellis.

The first book is an introduction to socialism with a humourous spirit to it. Danny talks first about capitalism in both modern and historical contexts, identifies its problems, and then goes on to introduce socialism and its modern and historical contexts. I'm now getting into the last part of the book, which I think it more centered around how we go about getting from Point A to Point B. Highly recommended to anyone interested in socialism but maybe doesn't have a strong understanding in its origins or why capitalism is so harmful.

The second? Anxiety has always been a struggle for me. Last year I decided that I was going to very seriously delve into this challenge, which has been a mixture of buddhist reading & practice, stoic reading & practice, and modern psychology reading. This book is the latter (lattest?). Ellis is extremely rational and structured in his approach; I would say bordering on stoicism! It's about digging into your personal belief system and identifying the "MUST HAVE" beliefs you have about the world you live in, and how those MUSTs produce anxiety. (A natural consequence of believing that the universe owes you specific circumstances to occur or not occur.) It's given me yet another lens to gaze into my life's conditioning and question what I see. Recommended reading for anyone else struggling with regular anxiety.

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Just finished "The Fireman" by Ray Bradbury, the novella which became Farenheight 451. Can Bradbury ever write! And it's still on point more than ever 70 years later, as in this passage which did not seem to make it into the novel:

They had applauded science while it had built a beautiful glass structure, a glittering miracle of contraptions about them, and too late they had found it to be a glass wall. They could not shout through the wall; they could only pantomime silently, never touching, hearing, barely seeing each other.

(Read it online at https://archive.org/download/galaxymagazine-1951-02/Galaxy_1951_02.pdf)

Before that, got stuck on We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis Taylor, which started reasonably well if not entirelyy originally but petered off dreadfully. Abandoned its sequel 10% through and should have given up on it days earlier.

Now starting The Space Between The Stars by Anne Corlett, which I have high hopes for.

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Currently reading "A voyage for madmen". Just started it. An account of the first golden globe race and its participants.

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It's so good! I haven't gotten to play much lately as my weekly tabletop game group has moved on to a variety of board games. We were playing casual homebrew every week for a couple of years before we stopped.

I've read a number of MtG novels, started buying them as I can find them in used book stores in the area. The quality varies, but they tend to be pretty fun and add a lot to the cards, for me. So far The Brothers' War is easily the best.

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@nanomonkey It feels both familiar and fresh at the same time. We'll see once I wrap up the book, but it seems like I'll be waiting impatiently for more from this new universe.

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@signal9 I joined magic in urza's saga (and still play casually). Such an epic story arc <3

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The big lesson I took away from Old Man's War was the First Lesson of Self Defense: Run away! If you don't have the stamina to run away, you can't fight either. Also, the unconventional pedagogy of the instructor (scare the %$#$^ out of his pupil so she thinks she is running for her life) is essentially what is now called "High Intensity Interval Training".

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@Emile Yes, Cory Doctorow's latest book.

@angelo I loved Old Man's War. How are you liking his other stuff so far?

@nanomonkey voted At the moment I'm working through _The Collapsing Empire_ by John Scalzi.
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@signal9 @nanomonkey @mix

Walkaway by Cory Doctorow?

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At the moment I'm working through The Collapsing Empire by John Scalzi. I enjoyed the Old Man's War series and was excited for him to open up a new universe.

So far so good, and the book isn't terribly long. If I had the time I'd have cranked through it in one sitting!

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I tore thru Walkaway and may reread in the near future. My friends, who would otherwise not have read it, are reading it now just to shut me up about it.

Also recently reread A Brave New World.

"The Power of Neighborhood" and The Commons by P.M.

The Brothers War, first in the Artifact Cycle - a Magic the Gathering novel because I'm a giant nerd.

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@Richard D. Bartlett voted I read these on a nightly basis: - The Three Little Pigs - The Ugly Duckli
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@ansuz voted It's very good that you are reading your daughter Three Little Pigs - they
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@Emile voted *Walkaway* was good, if there were a pneumatic tube from California to New
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@gb Thanks for asking :smile:

These days I'm oscillating between three:

Wasting Time on the Internet by Kenneth Goldsmith
God Bless You, Mr Rosewater by Vonnegut
Gods' Man by Lynd Ward

As the evening progresses, I usually peek at these in this order based on the available energy and seriousness. I'm looking to reread Microserfs by Douglas Coupland when I finish the first two.

@coffee voted It's very good that you are reading your daughter Three Little Pigs - they
@Mikey voted I read these on a nightly basis: - The Three Little Pigs - The Ugly Duckli
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It's very good that you are reading your daughter Three Little Pigs - they are never too young to start learning about infosec. in that vein, I also recommend Cinderalla and Rumplestiltskin.

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I read these on a nightly basis:

  • The Three Little Pigs
  • The Ugly Duckling

aloud to my 3-year-old daughter.
I also read Little Red Riding Hood, but stopped because I found it bit gruesome in the middle (a person gets eaten alive!)

For my own bedtime I started reading The Dispossessed after seeing it suggested by several people here (@mix, @substack, @dinosaur). Very good so far.

Next in my queue is "Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias" edited by Peter Ludlow. Anyone here read that?

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Walkaway was good, if there were a pneumatic tube from California to New Zealand I'd send you a burrito and my copy.

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@Mikey won't shut up about Walkaway :heart: so that's probably next on the list.

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I read aloud to @Alanna.

We've recently finished :

  • The Vorrh - Brian Catling, a well written but quite strange surreal fiction.
  • House of Suns - Alastair Reynolds, an excellent epic scifi @piet recommended
  • Rendezvous with Rama - Arthur C Clarke, well written, short but engaging

Currently reading :

  • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert Heinlein, some classic anarchists on the moon with a touch of singularity
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I just finished The Three Body Problem by Liu Cixin. I'm not sure that I liked it much, found the characters kind of dry and I'm unsure if I'm going to continue on with the trilogy. Perhaps others can sway me one way or the other.

In the meantime I'm reading A Burglar's Guide to the City by Geoff Manaugh, and also going through Structures and Interpretations in Classical Mechanics, although I think I'm going to do the problemsets in clojure instead of scheme.

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what book are you reading right now?

asked @gb in the Fayettenam update thread

I'm currently reading "Long Walk to Freedom" by Nelson Mandela. This is one of those books that found me, I wasn't looking for it. I just picked it up in a thrift store one time, and opened it randomly.
(my test for a book is to open it at random and read a bit, don't test it at the start, because they expect that so they are gonna make the start good, but if a random bit is good, it's probably good all the way through) So I opened it randomly and it was a bit where he was working to persuade the ANC to support an armed insurrection, that was pretty jucy! So I went back to the start and havn't gotten back up to that part yet. It has lots of interesting things, like, Mandela is already fairly privleged within in tribal custom (2nd son of a chief) and only slowly becomes more radical. The first whites he meets who treat him as equals are the communist party. One of the big injustices he talks about is that it's very difficult for africans to actually own land, there are restricted areas they are allowed to live in, and they have official paperwork (passports, basically) just to travel between regions. While of course he hates the police for being the arm of African oppression, he generally portrays them as relatively by-the-book (Mandela is constantly in brushing with the police, as a political organizer, but he's also a lawyer).
At one point organizing a protest movement where teams of volentares willfully break laws (such as entering post office through whites only door) and get arrested. Quite a contrast to what we are hearing about US police... But in South Africa it's a minority oppressing a majority, not the other way around.

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@ev @emile @dominic I started reading Faulker (As I Lay Dying) twice this year. I haven't read Vonnegut yet but I read Catcher in the Rye in June of this year. I am happy to talk books all afternoon/evening/morning if y'all want to talk books. I'm trying to win a prize at the local library for reading 5 books and dropping my name in the hat. I'm halfway there. I'm not sure what I'll do with the stuff if I win though, since I don't own many things. I'll probably give everything away. The point is to read anyway.

What are you reading right now?

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@Dominic awesome suggestion. I read this last year in a pique of recovering from an arduous project.

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@dominic checked the card catalog at the local library -- says it's available; will pick it up and read it. Thank you for the suggestion.

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@Kas voted > pre-loved book Love that term. Will use.
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pre-loved book

Love that term. Will use.

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The downside of the Kindle

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Found this note between the pages of a pre-loved book:

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Wouldn't you like to know the story behind this note? I know I would.

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I really like this idea! (Content Freedom)

Decentralized digital library https://lbry.io/

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Oh. Oh no. I wasn't aware that Programmer at Large! was based off of the Verner Vinge Zones of Thought trilogy. Damn, the sections of A Deepness in the Sky where Pham is doing code archaeology are some of my favorites. Lets see if I can pull myself away from the temptation of drinking coffee and reading this all day...

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@nanomonkey

A Deepness in the Sky

You're right, now skimming over the book, indeed the premise is pretty much stolen from there. However in Vinge's, it's only a small plot device in the end.

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Thank you for reminding me to read the new chapters of Programmer At Large! Btw. it's methods of rationality.

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I second Zendegi; loads of stuff by Greg Egan is great, and a lot of it tends towards dark if that is what you are going for. Judging by Wikipedia it looks like I was so freaked out that I actually only read half of his short stories in Axiomatic, so you can check that one out. Another interesting one is Singleton, which in addition to the many-worlds-hypothesis hand wringing has some thoughts about the problems involved in being a baby robot.

He also has the Clockwork Rocket trilogy, which, although more peppy, is science fiction--as in, fiction in which science happens--if there ever was any.

Programmer at Large was a great read, too; I will have to try some of the other things on here.

Also, I love that Yudkowsky's major accomplishments in life are 1) a major Harry Potter fanfic and 2) hopefully-successful research into saving us all from robot-powered death.

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True voyage is return.

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Books:

Fanfics:

Predictably, most of this shit is absurdist/reductionist/dark-themed/depraved. Please recommend your stuff if you know something in similiar vein.

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Ha, just realized how old this thread is...my bad.

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Hard SciFi:

  • A Fire Upon the Deep (actually the whole Zones of Thought trilogy) by Vernor Vinge
  • Ananthem and Seveneves by Neal Stephenson were great. Really, all of his books are though.

Fantasy

  • Anything by Megan Lindholm (also writes as Robin Hobb), while the titles of her books are a bit much (Assassin's Apprentice?!) and may put you off, her writing is some of the best I've come across. Seriously, I've cried multiple times for each of her books. I'd start with the Farseer trilogy, or Wizard of Pigeons if you can find it.
  • Anything by Jim Butcher. The first book of Dresden Files wasn't amazing, but it was his first book...he rapidly becomes a great storyteller. Codex Alera is also a great series.
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Added to my #toread list. Thanks :)

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+10, this book is burned into my mind-heart.

I didn't read it for a while because the synopsis I heard was "anarchists on the moon". (I'm a wretchedly cynical anarchist).
This book holds a sharp mirror to our civilisation. It's not lovey-dovey utopian, it explores the challenges of forking societies along ideologies, and how ideologies are never perfect.

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The Dispossessed

by Ursula Le Guin

web | epub | mobi

This book details the adventures of a Physicist who lives in an anarchist/communist society on the moon of Anarres and visits the propertarian/patriarchical/capitalist society of Urras.

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singularity sci-fi: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelerando/accelerando.html

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A good read: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelerando/accelerando.html

Post-singularity intergalactic madness. Life-or-death copyright wars. Agalmic prosperity. Uploaded humans, lobsters, and many levels of benevolent & malevolent AI.

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Interesting! Thanks for sharing.

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Yeah... I've read this one. It certainly makes you think. The bit about hackers creating myriad layered corporations via legal code certainly reminiscint of a DAO (but preceding it by a few years, which is always nice..)

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The last book I read was Memoria de mis putas tristes by García Márquez. I read it in New York City in May 2016. I don't know whether you'd enjoy it or not. It made me think. But if you've never read Cien Años I'd start there.

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Thanks @tiago I'll add that to my reading list

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https://www.gitbook.com/@hintjens -- "culture and empire"
it isn't a fictional narrative but deals quite analytically with society structure, that appears up your alley.

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see #sf and #sweet-reads, they're rife with suggestions

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I just got done with metatropolis it was a fun easy read... some unique ideas

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@null_radix the John Scalzi story is hilarious, thanks for the recommendation :+1:

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To our friends - invisible committee, On the lower frequencies - erick lyle

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Thanks, that looks interesting!

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My reading list is running short so I'm on the lookout for new material.

I've enjoyed Ubik, Homage to Catalonia, Nexus trilogy, The kingkiller Chronicle, Wool to give you some idea.

Any suggestions?